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CacheDrone is Disliked at Groundspeak | Geocaching.  We the cachers HATE the reviewer CacheDrone because of his RUDE and vindictive responses.

when is this germ CACHEDRONE going to be removed ?

Arrogance from Garmin - The Race for GeoCaching Garmin and the other guy.

The Race for GeoCaching Garmin and the other guy. I believe they were arrogant enough to think that just because they do own the #1 GPS brand, they'd be a shoe-in for also becoming the #1 rated cache site. Problem was, it was done with no thought... - They swiped a name used by another. - Their "peer review" still isn't working (there's a thread devoted to how screwed up it is). - Over 90% of their hides are still crosslisted, even after goals to have site-only hides were made. And now, in desperation , another plan to crosslist more takes place. - By allowing banned GC members to lead their kick-off and allow them to express their feelings in their forums, they lost all credibility as an "open" site right from the get-go. It's simply a "I hate Groundspeak" site. - Any time something is discussed in the forums, it's compared to GC.com. Mods allow it. Can't have a unique site if everyone compares everything discussed to another. Again showing a disgruntled GC member site. People who whine on GC forums, "Why can't you bring back virtuals, web cams, etc" and after explained why, still carry the whining into two more pages usually fit with this group. - And last, without any formed structure at all, no goals to stay on track, winging it, the idea strayed. A little too late to catch up now. In desperation, the company even decided to have their own site info imbedded in the units. Nobody used it. Now a new format is being used, not compatible with the standard used by other manufacturers and their competing cache site, in an attempt to win folks over and instead (I believe) it'll turn more away. It's about time someone in that Company gets their head outta their can and realizes that while it's true that in GPS brands, they're the 800 lb gorilla, but in cache sites, the King of the jungle is Groundspeak. We wish someone can pop this zit.

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CacheDrone Hated by many cachers

CacheDrone was the receiver of the most pies in the face.

REMOVE the reviewer CacheDrone from CANADA - he is RUDE and vindictive


It seems he is disliked, and look the fool is laughing. Has he noticed the joy from the spectator is when he gets a pie in the face.

remove CACHEDRONE  from Geocaching.com
CACHER WISH TO REMOVE THIS REVIEWER

CacheDrone Hated by many cachers at Groundspeak | Geocaching

Garmin erase Groundspeak.com

Remember what happened to myspace.   I hope Garmin squish this "worm" Groundspeak/Geocaching.

Please see this outstanding article by me Nick Brown and JOIN www.opencaching.com. Also move your caches out of Groundspeak, transfer to www.opencach.

As far as I know, the Groundspeak/Garmin partnership was never a formal corporate tie-up – beyond specific projects such as the addition of geocache icons to GPS devices or integration of the Wherigo player – but it’s clear that both companies gained from their relationship, which had symbiotic elements. It makes sense for the biggest GPS manufacturer to work with the biggest geocache listing site.

I don’t know how big Garmin’s handheld/outdoor market is, but I’m going to guess that in 2008 it was about twice as big as they had probably forecast when making long-term plans back in 2001 or so. That extra doubling, or whatever, in size is entirely due to geocaching – an activity which emerged from nowhere, cost Garmin practically nothing in R&D and marketing, and has probably resulted in more revenue for Garmin than it has for Groundspeak. (In 2008, pretty well every geocacher had forked over $150 to $400 for a GPS unit; some proportion of those might have bought one or two years’ worth of Premium Membership on Geocaching.com at US$30 and/or a couple of travel bugs.)
Then, the geocaching device market – of which I’m guessing Garmin’s share was 85-90 per cent in 2008 – began to change. Smartphones with GPS capacity started to appear. Sure, you wouldn’t want to go caching in the deep woods with one of these do-not-drop devices but for FTF hunters in the city, they’re pretty handy (so I’m told; I might even get one, some day).

Of course, Garmin has always made out that its listing service is some kind of “community-driven” initiative. First, there’s the name: “OpenCaching” – perhaps only “FluffyKittenCaching” would have been nicer. There was already a loosely-coupled network of other Opencaching sites in various countries, run on a non-profit basis by volunteers. Garmin claimed to have had “some great discussions” with these sites but they’re the only ones who remember those conversations. Score -1 for Garmin, who should perhaps have realised their initial target market was people who don’t like Groundspeak, many of whom were already on the grassroots Opencaching sites, so alienating them was a poor idea. Next, there’s the propaganda: “Caching should be free”, “Driven by the community”, yada yada. The usual stuff you hear from large companies in this social media age: “We’re on the side of the little guys.” Really. “Corporate jet? What corporate jet?” (One of the truly bizarre features of the low-level, undeclared PR war between Garmin and Groundspeak has been how Garmin, a $3 billion company whose headquarters are located in a tax haven, has portrayed itself as being just a bunch of philanthropists, up against an unnamed, faceless, evil adversary that wants to steal all your cache data. When did Garmin’s president and chief financial officer last go into a dunk tank in front of the customers?)
It seems pretty clear that OpenCaching.com (OX, for short) has been set up with one aim: to bring Groundspeak to the negotiating table. There is no other plausible reason for Garmin to have set up the site with no revenue stream – they even provided free smartphone apps in the first couple of months, thus making it easy to use OX without buying a Garmin GPS. If OX can take 15-20 per cent of the caching traffic, goes the reasoning, Groundspeak might have to sit up and take notice; and it would probably be an interesting test of Groundspeak’s business model and easy-going corporate attitude if its de facto monopoly of the geocache listing market became less solid. So, Garmin made it extra-simple (give or take all of the design errors and bugs; it took me about 10 minutes to find how to create an 8-digit OX cache code, for example) for people to upload their caches and existing logs from Geocaching.com, in the hope they would stop using that site altogether.
This was always going to encounter some “chicken-and-egg” issues, given the huge installed base of caches (and cachers) at Geocaching.com – indeed, it seems to be legitimate to ask what percentage of people who will ever become geocachers have not yet tried geocaching, because this will determine how big the overall market can become – but it might have had a chance of working, had Garmin actually investigated what real geocachers want.
What they *don’t* want is a site with a lot of AJAX (Web 2.0) technology which looks great but doesn’t quite work – most geocachers have learned to be fairly undemanding about slick functionality, which has historically not been Groundspeak’s strong suit (although they have caught up a lot in the last 18 months or so); nor do they want to know that one cache is rated 0.1 difficulty points more than another (what does that even mean?).

Opencaching.com - Garmin’s new cache listing site!

http://groundspeakgeocaching.blogspot.ca/2010/04/opencachingcom-garmins-new-cache.html